Mr bb thanks for the guidence i really appeprecate it i accualy am planing to scout next weekend i just have to make sure i dont have to work if so the following weekend i mite try to knock on a few doors but i never have ajy luck with that but like u said its part of the sporti was thinkin of looking at resthaven one week and killdeer plains another so if any body knows if those are good spots let me know so i can study some maps