i'm not sure you guys will agree but, the doe numbers started dropping by my land FORSURE last year but, the buck numbers are still good....this seemed to lead to alot of rubs and BIG scrapes this year!!! but only 10,000 down from last year, thought it would be higher, heard of alot of tag sandwich's this year.....just like in michigan, i would say CUT WAY BACK ON DOE TAGS....WAY BACK..