Yea it is a fun discussion and I get all your points as far as if they had orange or not On the blind I have no idea it was just a brief summery of a news article I read As far as drives I don't judge because people do them I all ways ask them not to judge me cause I don't be leave in doing them just to many safety concerns for me the week of gun season I just stay home just for the fact that there are to many hunters shooting hunters that week. Bow season is like 4 months in ohio so I give the gun hunters there week. Nothing against anyone ever.i just be leave there a diff between I man doing a spot and stalk and 7-10 guys walking a field in a row and start unloading on the first deer that jumps up and starts running Now I know before to long someone is gonna start beating me up on bird hunting. Lol