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    That sounds like a terrible dealer period. But customer service is not the completely on the bow manufacturer. I've dealt with good and bad dealers. Where I used to live the hoyt and mathews dealer wasnt so good but the bowtech dealer was so even though I shot a hoyt and still do all my work went to the good dealer down the street. I talked to the manufactuer (hoyt and mathews) about my experiences with the dealers and they didnt seem to care one bit.

    As for form issues I havnt looked at the new mathews bows but the one thing that made me walk away from them was the soft backwall which it sounds like they fixed with the drawstops. The other gripe I had was the huge grip didnt work with my smallish hands. It sounds though that you are starting to get used to the bow I hope everything straightens itself out.
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    Nomad,
    The Creed has a solid wall I was going to get a Mathews Chill but it had no wall. Mathews new Slim Fit Inline wood Grips Is A lot thinner than the older Mathews wood grips. I still may put a Shrewd grip on my Creed
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad_archer View Post
    As for form issues I havnt looked at the new mathews bows but the one thing that made me walk away from them was the soft backwall which it sounds like they fixed with the drawstops. The other gripe I had was the huge grip didnt work with my smallish hands. It sounds though that you are starting to get used to the bow I hope everything straightens itself out.
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    Nomad,
    The Creed has a solid wall I was going to get a Mathews Chill but it had no wall. Mathews new Slim Fit Inline wood Grips Is A lot thinner than the older Mathews wood grips. I still may put a Shrewd grip on my Creed
    Yes, the Creed has a solid back wall with the draw stops. The one thing that is hard getting used to is the back wall is right at the end of the draw cycle and occasionally I have to catch myself as it wants to 'go' right away. Not sure if that can be adjusted any but it takes some getting used to. Like buffdog said, the new slim fit grip is definitely slimmer than the old grip which takes some getting used to as well. Grip is definitely more important to have it in that sweet spot now as any torque sure seems to show up with it. The older fat grip on my Q2 just seemed to fit perfect in my hand and never had that feeling of twisting. Still love the feel of the wood grip though so that is still very important when I pick up a bow.

    Shot some Slick Trick standards through it last night and really liked how they performed. They were off a little from my fieldpoints at 30-40 yards, about 3 inches away slightly low and to the right. But I don't know how many times I put the arrow in the same hole at those distances...very consistent!! So I have a little bit of work to do to make things perfect.
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    Sounds like its coming together for you holla. I found I am a side plates kind of when I went to hoyt. There is nothing wrong with the new mathews bows but I just don't have the itch for a new bow at this time so Im not even looking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nomad_archer View Post
    Sounds like its coming together for you holla. I found I am a side plates kind of when I went to hoyt. There is nothing wrong with the new mathews bows but I just don't have the itch for a new bow at this time so Im not even looking.
    I agree, it took me 14 years to finally upgrade to this new bow so the dag-gone thing better do me some good for a while!!
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    yeah i haven't bought a new one for a couple years but for some reason i look at the new hoyts every year

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    I read an article in field and stream a couple months ago about grips( and a bunch of other stuff that is supposed to be better or worse) and the thought that bigger is better or vice versa. They tested the theory out on three different bows and I believe one of them was a Mathews. The end results were surprising in that they all shot significantly better with no grip than with any other grip. I shoot a bowtech and the grips on them aren't very thick and I was thinking about getting a larger one but after reading that article I may just stick with what I got.


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    Well Mightymet if you look at the standard grips on the high end target bows most of them do not have any grip on them at all just the painted riser. The reason behind that is that the bigger the grip the more likely one is to accidentally torque the bow which will affect accuracy. Most hunting bows have some sort of grip on them. I like side plates since it finishes the bow since hunting bows all have some type of grip on them but they are small and unobtrusive. Some people like to have some sort of grip on their hunting bow because when its 20* out in november and you are waiting a deer to come it your hand can get really really cold even with gloves on holding that metal riser with side plates or no grip. The cold riser inst something that bothers me but I'm sure it bothers some people and thats te reason they like grips since wood and composite grips wont transfer the cold as readily to your hand.
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    Exactly nomad_archer, that is the first thing I looked at (and felt) when I was looking at new bows. The one's that only had a metal riser and no wood whatsoever I could have cared less to even shoot. It has to be comfortable in my hand and wood makes all the difference in the world to me.
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    BH,

    I picked up a new Mathews a couple weeks ago also. I had been wanting to upgrade for awhile also. I ended up with the Helim tho. I just liked the feel better. Anyway I have been having some accuracy/consistency issues too. You are right in saying they are very sensitive. I have delt with the draw and the wanting to "go" like you stated also. Mine comes when I really am trying to relax and concentrate on my form! I shoot a hell of alot better then too.Gonna talk to dealer and see if maybe shortening the draw a 1/2 inch would help. Seems when I relax my arm holding bow is when she "goes"! My thinking is my left arm can relax and not lock and still keep same anchor!

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