gonna try the roll out food plot i keep seeing really dont have equipment to do food plots so this looks like best option
gonna try the roll out food plot i keep seeing really dont have equipment to do food plots so this looks like best option
well I guess that stuff can work, but seems to me like a lot would be needed to make a plot that would last from browsing
food plots can be done with some simple tools, with just some harder work
I started doing them with just a rake and a shovel
and then a walk behind tiller, and then the ATv , and now a tractor
but a small sprayer can be had for like 10 bucks, , might have to fill it a few times, but getting started isn't a ton of cash, or tools needed
just will power and some hrs of work
but even big plots, take time and work, But a good take, is always such a welcome sight come hunting season
well i was wondering i dont want to cut down any trees right now but have small field in your opinion how big should first plot be and when should i start it i have a feeder in woods and feeder on field edge around a quarter ac. woods
well a 1/4 acre is a nice sized food plot
a food plot can be any size, the smaller , well , you have to worry about them eating it faster than it can grow, but it will still work to draw deer to it, just like a pile of corn,
when corn is gone they still look for it there,
what and how big , is really up to you, and your soil
and what will grow best there as is
best plans are to look NOW that leaves are full on tree's and see how much sun light that field gets
next would be to go and take some sil in a bunch of spots in the field
and mix it all together and have a soil test done on it(cost about 10 bucks for a soil test)
this is one of the most important parts of a food plot
as it will tell you what your soil type is and what the PH is
pending WHO does the testing, many places will even recommend a seed for your soil type
IF not NOT
the soil PH will for sure tell you what/how big you can afford to go
90% of all food plot seeds will grow SOME in poor soil
but to get a good long lasting plot, you really want to get the Ph up to 6-6.5 or so
so a soil test will tell you how much or little lime it needs to get there, plus it if you tell them what seed you want to plant, how much fertilizer is needed
sounds a little confusing, but its really simple
your budget will then tell you how big, based on the soils needs
for a cheaper first plot, you can skip brand name seeds
most country feed stores in rural area's sell seeds by the Lb, like clover, rape, chicory, turnips, and the likes
for feed plots, summer time food, and spring, Clover is a great plot, it will last for 6-7 yrs or more if taken care of, but it looses its draw as frosts come, so its not the best hunting plot
feeds like Brasicia's, turnips, Rape, winter hardy oats, make for better hunting plots, as they come into there prime as frosts hits, and stand taller once snow falls, making easier and more attractive plants in hunting season till there gonein Jan feb or ?? pending how much you plant
the honest rule of thumb is this, plant a plot the size your budget allows, and do it right, add corect lime, and correct fertilizer, and seed amounts
a smaller plot planted well, will out grow a half assed one
something to think about
if you have any farmers in your area, right now is a slower time of yr, and many will for a reasonable fee, come and spray your site with round up, disc it, and even plant it
old rule , you never know till you ask
a farmer with a tractor can do a 1/4 acre site pretty fast, couple hrs to disc and plant at most
need a week or so after applying the round up
Cheap Forage rape seeds would be a good fall planting, need about 5 lbs, which at my local Agway would be avout 15 bucks in seed cost, ( a 50 lb bag is 60 bucks and will plant about 7 acres)
add in say 150 lbs of 10-10-10(about 45 bucks) and thats maybe high, on average its about 300 lbs an acre, so at just a 1/4 acre, you can maybe get away with less, again your soil sample will tell you this info!
a half a gallon of round up, about 10 bucks, and what ever is needed in lime, if you have a bulk delevery guy about, and the field is open to be driven on, its about 40 bucks a ton spread, ON average a ton of lime will raise your PH one point(many claim a 1,000 lbs will, but not in my experience, lime really needs time to work in to change PH, and most bulk spread lime is of lower quality in lime)
that's about a 100 bucks in seed/fert/lime
minus getting somone to spray it down and then turn it over /Disc it, price on thsi will depend on your local farmers, and how grown up the field is(does it need to be brush hogged or just disked)
add in another 150 bucks, and your at about 250 bucks for a good hunting fall plot! a ballpark figure
again your budget will say if this is high or not, can you can cut back as needed
exactly when you plant
this will be decided on two things, one, all seeds have a growth rate, like a 90 day seed or a 45 day seed, and so on
meaning you want to plant the seed so it will reach mature size before your normal frost dates in the area it will be planted
I have seen Brassicia's with as low as 38 days, and as high as 90 + days
so when you plant is by seed timing, and well when you actually have the time to plant!
trust me, over the yrs I missed my window to plant due to getting busy in life, and planted weeks later than planned
still worked out OK, not as great as it maybe should have been, but still worked to draw deer all hunting season!
well field is actually mowed to like a lawn length right now and the farmer is next door getting ready to turn up field since he just harvested the winter wheat maybe i should talk to him but here is the real question the property that i have has will and already have corn planted and soy beans and the farmer is going to plant the field they just harvested with beans or wheat again when i talked to him earlier in the year will the food plot be beneficial to me during the season or not i have 2 fulltime feeders running year round and minerals year round also and 15 apple trees on property that are mature and deer eat them till they are gone
well if its mowed to almost lawn like, that will make planting it very easy
and will a food plot help, if you have lots of corn beans about you, YES
all food plots help
think of it like this, if you plant a fall plot of say turnips, Brassicia, Rape
, well this stuff pulls deer like crazy, all the more so when a few frosts gets to it, turns them sweet
and your deer have been eating beans and corn for weks
its a new food source, maybe closer to cover water for them, if you ate the same thing for weeks, you will be glad to have a new food source
second, corn and beans will be harvested come late oct mid nov in most places , then what, where do your deer go, having a standing plot of Good food after harvest of crops is a major draw to your property
NOW if you decided to plant something like clover, or chicory, well, again, it is a new food source, one that actually makes better protien than corn and beans
it will not be a huge draw after heavy frosts, well the clover will not for sure as it will pucker up, the chicory will hold its own , BUT it will re grow come spring time, LONG before a farmer plants anything
thus giving your deer a jump on food and protien in spring time, making a healthier herd /hevier weight gains come spring, which can maybe lead to bigger racks come fall
deer are what they eat to a point!
having a food plot on your property makes your property more attractive to wildlife in general
will it be a 100% all gains
well NO
having a food plot is like having an open feeder, deer learn if pressured, to visit it in safest hours, as the food is there for eating 24/7
BUT it will draw deer as long as its there
meaning come fall rut, doe's will hit a food plot , bucks will follow, and rape/turnips/brassicia, is a better food source come winter time too, provides deer with better intake than just corn , making surviving winter easier on them, and again, making deer come into spring with a better heads up
so yes, I believe a food plot is always a plus for a property
I have 50+ acres of corn and 5 + acres or so of beans right now, and I am still planting fall food plots
and I expect to kill my buck in a fall food plot, or hope to anyways LOl
ok so i think i am going to put in a small fall food plot what do you recommend as far as seed and when do i need to have it in by i will be planting it in central ohio morrow county if that helps at all first time for a plot any advice to make it easier would be nice
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