Help/advice????

[00buck]

i will keep you updated is it to much to ask the landowner to let us scout it and run cameras for a week or so or is that something you dont ask

[mrbb]

well something like that isn't I gather all that common, but I see no harm in asking, I would be a little iffy(sorry) to share any pic's of BIG bucks however, as he might want more then LOl)
sadly, now is a just a bad time to be running camera's to use as scouting tools, for one, bucks don't really have any antlers, and food now will be totally different than come fall
Best bet would be to look for old rubs and maybe even scrapes
terrian, and again, the local warden, he would know about how hard an area gets hunted, deer numbers, and like info!
can even maybe tell you more about the farmer/person with the lease
as maybe he is a guy that comlains about crop damage, and or a farmer that is known to shoot a LOT of deer to control crop damage
both are good things to know ahead of time if you can!
I have always tried to get to know my local wardend where I hunt, some have been outstanding guys to know, and a few just plain sucked
also good info to know, if a problem or need ever comes up, from poaching issue's to needing access to recover a deer off property
better to know them now, than trying to get help when it happens
plus they get to know you, always a bonus I think when money is involved in hunting these days, should a problem ever happen!
Good luck

[Big_Holla]

If you are leasing it there ought to be dates that are set in stone that allow you access. I would imagine within those dates you would be able to do as you wish, run cams, hang stands, etc..

[00buck]

well i talked to the land owner and we are meeting this Wednesday and me and the other guys are going to run trail cams for a week over minerals now out of this 86 ac 40 some of it is planted with corn which i dont see being able to bow hunt the field and there is a creek on the property so i am going to ask if we can get it at a reduced rate due to it not being leased before and is the first year being leased with no proven results or trail cam pics showing the bucks it has produced if any one has a copy of there lease agreement and maybe could send me a copy of it i would appreciate it and do i need to take agreement to a lawyer or notary or something to help protect me and other guys

[blackbeard]

If you got land to hunt already why are you leasing? Price seems high to me at $23.00 per acre, no way I'd pay $666 to hunt 86 acres for one season.

[00buck]

the property is like 5 mins from house and the other properties are small tracts less then 10 ac between the two of them but i have shot deer out of them consistently they just get pressured fairly quick..................... but here is a question for whoever do you think it would be wrong to ask for a very reduced rate on this lease and let him use us as lab rats or how ever you would say it to let him know whats there and since he is just basing deer population on that he found five deer stands or how would you approach this i dont want to be rude but the bucks antlers are just growing back and he has no pics or anything

[00buck]

oh did i forget to mention it is the lease that is listed on this forum as half tillable but it has been planted with corn hard to hunt standing corn with a bow

[Pep4]

$2k for 86 acres with half huntable/holding deer with no proven track record of deer harvests or buck sizes??? sounds like the guy wants to make some quick money off unproven ground...proven ground with harvest records and trail cam pics from 10 years i guess $2k is okay...86 acres isn't much land to hold deer when half is field and remember open field corn stubble this fall...unless that property is a good travel area between other properties...i'd find out what the deer population and harvest is on all surrounding properties...i think you are taking quite a chance for that much money...but as others have mentioned finding good hunting land close to home can be very important too and peace of mind knowing you have a place to hunt every year and having a place to call your own to set up trail cams, etc...so i guess scout the land hard and look for scrapes and rubs and ask around about deer populations in that area and harvest...also see if you can leave cameras up for a couple weeks minimum as it usually takes a couple weeks for deer to find a mineral lick, or sometimes a year or so before they really hit it hard...good luck!

[Pep4]

Find out what the going rate per acre to lease in that area is...ask around a little bit with locals...here in pa it is only $7 to $10 per acre but we're usually looking at much bigger parcels.

[00buck]

well went and looked at lease as well as one other person not bad property but very thick and didnt feel comfortable paying the 2000 dollars with no idea as to what was there other than tracks and stands so we passed i guess the other guys got there 5 mins before us and told them they would pay the full 2000 for it with out looking at it first so what do you think the landowner did