what helps me out is the 1050 ac. H.S. pro-staffers lease across the street ( i'm sure ther aren't coming to ohio for doe's ) south of me -1/2 mile- there is 1400+ ac. of MEAD land that they clearcut 800 ac. of it 4 yrs ago, it looks very thick, that might be helping my deer pop....... like to see just 2 doe limit