he got the info from Charlie Alsheimer, he does rut predictions and is pretty d*mn good at it too, he wrote a book with all his predictions and I don't have the book on me but I had to laugh at his prediction for next year. If I remember correctly he said it's going to occur in mid october, however he said with the late/early (i forget which again I don't have the book on me it's at home) full moon the rut could also be extremely late like the third week of november. Therefore it makes planning a trip to ohio a crap shoot haha