Thanks guys.I saw a better one that was to far but when this one came by I wasn`t about to pass.The one that was at the butcher shop when I took mine in maid mine look really small.I hope to spend more time in Ohio next year and try for one like I saw.I saw the big 8 I`m after yesterday but he was after a doe and wasn`t interested in me.Hopefully tomorrow because its our last day of archery.