Thanks Stonegod! all them all-day sits finally seem worthwhile! I originally he thought he was a buck I had on trail camera in 2009 and 2010, which would make him 5.5 yrs old now. but after inspecting the teeth, we found out hes only a 3.5 yrs old! I have shot a lot of 3.5 yr old bucks, but never one with this much mass! Couldnt be happier!