Thax ya'll for the welcom horton hunter ill keep that in mind come this sept for opening of bow n see how that area is ? shot at the same doe 3 times last season in 5mins before she figured she better leave lol shot her for 30 but she was 14yds n down hill just over her back 3 times in a row was shook up with doe fever lol would have been my 1st deer with a bow well i been practicing all year sence close of last season n iam ready for her again did mannage a doe n a small 8 point opening day m.l season last yr so freezer wasnt completely empty lol good luck to yall hope to see yall in the woods sometime