One word TUFF , i did not hunt as much this year as i would have liked to due to finishing our house, i normally only miss 7-10 days a season. so starting late was ruff on me personally, We have dog issues here (5) that are now running deer so that does not help at all, but i did and was chasing a nice 10 at the end of season with 4 other bucks , but he would only get within 50 yards of me. Funny how the big ole boys learn to stay just that much from the field edge. especially after the gun seasons.