Well, I have to be happy all in all, since this was my first year to kill a deer with a bow. Missed an eight point my first night out. Took a doe the next night. Hunted 10-12 more times and saw a few deer including a nice ten point several times, but never got closer than 80 yards. My brother saw the ten point again the second to last day of bow season, so we have high hopes of getting a little closer to him next year...